This might be stating the obvious, but in the event of an EMP, things will not be the same, no matter how great your generator is.
Aaron Dykes of Truthstream Media wrote an excellent article about the extreme likelihood of a catastrophic event that could take out our power grid:
Billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer is warning investors – and more broadly, lawmakers and leaders – about the potential destructive power of an electromagnetic pulse, or EMP, which could be triggered by solar events or artificially, via blasts in the atmosphere.
According to Singer, research shows that no other incident, including a nuclear bomb, has the potential for such wide-scale devastation, coupled with the relative likelihood of occurring. While a nuke would primarily impact on the location of a such (such a city), an EMP could occur globally or across large-scale regions, wreaking havoc on the entire electric grid and devices…
…Government agencies, such as NASA and Homeland Security, have taken some preliminary steps towards preparing for an EMP attack – regardless of the potential for natural of man made causes – but the public at large remains cripplingly unaware of the dangers present to modern life, and its reliance on all things electronic, digital and, thus, transient. (Check out the rest of this MUST-READ article HERE)
We’ve all read many articles about the likelihood of grid failure. We’ve been warned again and again that it isn’t a matter of if, but when, it happens.
Because of this, a lot of people are preparing for a very different future. Folks are getting ready for the Big Blackout. The thing is, I am not sure everyone is thinking this through. Many people are spending buckets of money on preparations to try to keep their lives as similar as possible to how they are today. They’re investing in diesel generators and Faraday cages to protect their electronics. They are buying propane-fueled appliances. They’re stashing away fuel to run these gadgets.
Generators are not a practical investment for EMP preparation.
The problem with that method of preparation is, the fuel-generated lifestyle will only last for as long as you have…well…fuel.
Very few of us have enough storage space or the proper facilities to store 5 years’ worth of fuel. If the power grid goes down in a catastrophic way, it’s going to take at least 5 years to get things up and running again, and that’s assuming things ever get up and running again in the way they are now.
That means that people are spending thousands of dollars investing in items that will only sustain their lifestyles for a brief period of time. Generators are not a long term solution unless you have renewable power. (More on that later). While a generator would be a blessing in a short-term emergency (think a week-long power outage due to a storm), for a permanent way of life they are completely impractical.
Furthermore, in the event of an EMP strike, if your generator is not protected, it may not work no matter how much fuel you have stored.
Maybe the fact that I’m not rolling in money is the reason I feel this way. Maybe people with lots of money to spare have ideas about how to keep their generators running forever. But for my personal situation, this is a preparation strategy that is completely impractical.
A low-tech lifestyle is the best way to prep for grid-down survival.
If money is an object in your preparedness endeavors, (and let’s face it, money is an object for most of us these days), then focus your dollars on preps that are sustainable without electrical power. Instead of trying to live the exact same life you are living right now, only fueled by an individual generator, look for low-tech solutions instead. This reminds me of people who stop eating gluten but still want to eat exactly like they have been eating their entire lives, only now with expensive gluten-free baked goods that cost 4 times the price of their wheat-filled counterparts. When things change dramatically, accept the change and adapt to it, instead of trying to maintain the illusion that everything is the same.
Whether you can get power from an outlet in the wall or not, the necessities of day-to-day life will remain the same:
- Water
- Shelter and Warmth
- Food
- Sanitation and Hygiene
- Light
The ultimate preparedness goal should be to provide those necessities without any help from the power grid, generators, or fossil fuel. (LEARN MORE about planning for a long-term disaster)
When my youngest daughter and I lived in the North Woods of Canada, we lost power frequently throughout the year. Lots of folks in the area had generators that they would fire up when the power went out, and that was a viable solution, since gas stations were available and fuel was pretty much unlimited as long as you could afford to go get it. We were on a tight budget, however, and we adapted our situation to live without power during those outages. After the first couple of outages, we had worked out most of the bugs and we even began to look forward to our time without power – it was like a little vacation from the regular workday. As plugged in as our society is, power is not actually a necessity – it’s a luxury, and we can live without it as long as we are adaptable, creative, willing, and prepared.
Let’s look at some specific examples of low-tech ways to take care of our necessities. These ideas are just food for thought, based on my own preparedness plan – they may not be the solutions that will work best for you, but the goal here is to brainstorm your own situation and figure out how to live your life low-tech if the need occurs.
Off-grid Water
If you haven’t located water sources near your home, it’s time to break out the topographical maps of your area and find them! A low-tech water plan might include some or all of the following:
- A manual pump for your well
- Buckets and wheelbarrows for hauling water from a nearby source
- Rain barrels for water harvesting (THIS is an inexpensive option with mixed reviews)
- A gravity-fed water filtration system (we have THIS ONE)
- A water dispenser for convenient access to filtered water (Be sure to get one with the bottle on top so that it can be operated without electricity, and not one that uses an electric pump to pull the water up from the bottom)
- Storage units for water such as cisterns or tanks
- Portable water filter bottles for safe water when you are away from home (we have THIS ONE)
Off-grid Shelter and Warmth
Homes these days aren’t built to function without a connection to the power grid. If you aren’t fortunate enough to live in an older home that was designed for off-grid living, look at some ways to take your home back a century or so. A secondary heating system is vital in most climates.
- An antique oil heater can use lots of different oils and requires little effort for installation (THIS SITE is loaded with information about Perfection oil heaters)
- Have a woodstove installed
- Clean your chimney and get your fireplace working
- Set up an outdoor fireplace with large rocks to bring inside for radiant heat (this won’t get you super warm but it’s better than nothing)
- Have a good supply of blankets, warm clothes, and cold-rated sleeping bags
- Learn techniques to stay warm with less heat
Off-grid Food
Not only do you need access to food, but you also need a way to cook it and a way to keep your refrigerated and frozen items from spoiling.
- Grow a garden and save your seeds
- Have a greenhouse or extend your growing season with cold frames and hoop houses
- Have a well-stocked pantry
- Have supplies for off-grid canning (Jars, lids, outdoor burner) – and learn how to can without a kitchen
- Learn ways to get by without refrigeration
- Outdoor cooking methods – THIS STOVE can be used with 3 different types of fuel
- If you’re anything like me, have a French Press for off-grid coffee!
- Make a solar cooker – learn how HERE
Off-grid Sanitation and Hygiene
How will you keep clean and deal with human waste in the event of a long-term emergency?
- If you are on a septic system, store water for flushing and have a collection system to save your used water in the future
- If you are not on a septic system, devise a plan and get supplies for an outhouse or cathole
- Learn how to do your laundry off-grid (I use a janitor’s bucket LIKE THIS for wringing out clothes – get the best quality you can afford – the cheap plastic ones will break when you use them for laundry)
- Learn how to make your own cleaning products
Off-grid Lighting
The world is a scary place when it’s dark, and most of us have forgotten how dark TRUE dark really is, due to light pollution and the proximity of neighbors. Here are some lighting solutions for an off grid world:
- Solar garden lights – store them outside to be charged during the day and bring them in and put them in vases where they’re needed at night
- Oil lamps – you can recycle used cooking oil or use rendered fat to power these – they give a brighter light and can be used for reading and close-work (Learn more HERE)
- Candles – stock them and learn to make them
- Solar powered flashlights
Renewable power is practical power.
One exception to my no-generators rule is renewable power. If you can afford a solar set up for your home, then very little would change about your day-to-day life, aside from you being one of the few people with power. You don’t have to go totally solar to have power for a few important items. Assuming you have electronics in working order, they can be powered with solar, wind, or water.
Most of us can’t afford an entire set up but these are some options to consider:
- Build a DIY portable solar recharging station – learn how to make it HERE
- Solar-powered systems for specific items – learn more HERE
- Use wind power – learn more HERE
- Use water power – learn more HERE
What will you do when the electrical power goes out?
Do you have plans in place for a long-term (or permanent) power outage? Are you planning to use generators and maintain your current lifestyle, or are you planning to go low-tech? Share your opinions and some of your cost-effective ideas in the comments!
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We have a home made grid tie solar system now to reduce the utility bill. However, we also have batteries and a charge controller if the grid goes down.
I also made a solar thermal panel with pex tubing piped into my water heater with a 12v computer cooling pump and snap switches to control the on and off by temperature. Also a copper coil in the plenum of the wood and coal furnace tied into the same system for winter hot water…with a gravity flow spring water system providing all the water pressure needs without any power.
That being said, I think I have invested way too much time and effort doing this. I am of the mindset now that that we should take our cues from the Amish neighbors and just “get up with the chickens”.
Whether we accept it or not, hydrocarbon fuels will be hard to come by in the next decade for any where near the price they are now. It is better to prepare for a life without carbon fuel or electricity.
Great article,I moved into a big tank underground last sept,made of 1/2 in aluminum ,11 high by 38 long.with a floor my ceiling is 9 high.all lites,air in and out are 12volt,full size fridge and freezer are propane,500 gallon buried also.i did this to really save on living expense.tank was sprayed with 2in hard foam on outside prior to burying.only thing I miss are windows.
What about the nuclear power plants? They have a limited supply of fuel in reserve to run their back-up generators. Once they run out of fuel they will meltdown….104 in the US. The air, water and soil will become radioactively toxic….no crops, can’t breathe the air and can’t drink the water. What then? This issue needs to be discussed more!
Could be why the US government bought millions of doses of potassium iodine the other week … kind of makes sense if they knew this would be a possibility , or it may be Fukishima like many said .
Yes, Willie Pete, this is THE most important issue and is hardly ever brought up in discussions of a grid-down scenario. My estimate is that 100,000 tons of nuclear waste from the decades of power generation and other nuclear experiments is in pools at the plants, and 100 tons of fuel in each reactor that need to be cooled. That is in the US alone. There has been no planning or preparation for this.
The catastrophe at Fukushima spared Japan since most of the fallout went off its coast into the Pacific. Not so good for the fish, but if this plant was on the east coast of Japan, it certainly would have made the whole northern island uninhabitable. We face much worse here if any single plant, let alone many of them, on the west coast melt and burn. Potassium Iodide only protects from radio-iodine, while the Plutonium, Cesium, Strontium, and many hundreds of other DEADLY radioisotopes will kill 9 million species on this land, and most probably the world. These poisons remain deadly for millions of years.
It is time this is addressed. Nuclear power and experiments need to stop and it must be a priority to find a power source than can be hardened against EMP and deployed rapidly at every nuclear facility. Solar and wind generators can do the job, but will not survive an EMP unless they are stored underground or shielded.
*correction* meant to say if the Fukushima plant was on the *west* coast of Japan.
Blessings all, take good care, and thanks for this most important resource Daisy!
you guys might want to search;
1869 prophecy by 90 year old woman,
its about radioactivity…
if you think about the nuclear aspect and want to get south before the rush;
neoindigenousliving.com
correction;
1969
G
Im planning on partying like its 1799!
Kulafarmer,
Think more like 1699.
Dee Jay
JR was correct the best adaptation is mimicking the Amish way of life, therefor getting up with the rooster! I am focusing of the water system with a hand pump, the old ways of cooking and using hot water and the rest being kerosene for light. I had a brain injury a long time ago and an individual who has done many years of rehab and survived implanted this in my mind, “keep it simple stupid”. That saying has served me well and is duly applicable to the many complications of a massive loss of electricity.
This morning our electricity went out and I realized that where I live, there is not much we can do if there really was an EMP. There are no natural water supplies – except a polluted creek nearby and we are in the middle of a drought so there is not much rain or water. I grow a small garden, but today there is enough in it for about one meal. Can’t have chickens here. Don’t know if our fireplace even works.
Here is my blog post about this morning.
http://murglingalong.blogspot.com/2014/08/i-almost-slept-through-beginning-of-end.html
First of all, I read this “news” article about Paul Singer as well and found it to be more fear-mongering without much basis in scientific fact. Remember, an electromagnetic pulse, like other electromagnetic radiation, travels by line of sight ONLY. Given the curvature of the earth, a device activated/detonated at ground level would NOT have a far-reaching effect. This means, for example, that a device activated/detonated on the ground in the NYC area would have NO effect in Washington, D.C. However, 4 or 5 of such devices activated/detonated at an altitude of 75,000 – 90,000 feet in a linear pattern over the continental U.S. would have a devastating effect. (This height from sea level is 2 – 3 times as high as a commercial airliner typically cruises.)
It seems that one almost NEVER sees this scientific fact explained in news articles or scare articles of this type. Most people think, in error, that one little ol’ device activated/detonated in Key West, FL could wipe out the computers in Seattle, WA. This is NOT TRUE.
Furthermore, there are realistically only a handful of nation-states in the world that are capable of mounting such an attack, with China and North Korea being the only LIKELY suspects. Therefore, this is an extremely unlikely scenario although it is certainly technologically possible.
Should the U.S. government harden its electronics and should the financial industry harden its electronics? Absolutely. But this isn’t even a remotely likely cause of TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it). Don’t start spending your money building Faraday cages just yet…spend it on beans & bullets.
However, regardless of the reason or the source, this statement is certainly the gold-standard truth: A low-tech lifestyle is the best way to prep for grid-down survival. Think, simplify, read, experiment, train, and think again. Do not just buy some stuff/things and cobble together some kind of get-up just because you saw it in an online “prepper” article. Get it, make it, try it, use it. If you don’t, you make discover when you truly need it that it doesn’t work or doesn’t work the way that you want it to or that it should. And while it can be expensive to accumulate supplies/items/things (isn’t just about all prepping?!?), remember the golden rule: two is one and one is none.
This is a much better rain collection barrel than the one that Ms. Luther listed: http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ideas-RW50-OAK-Wizard-Barrel/dp/B0033VJ04K. Make sure that it sets up on the matching base or a couple of concrete cinder blocks (brick-o-blocks) so that the spigot is easier to access. Finally, remember that there is always a small amount of particulate that runs off of asphalt shingle roofs. In any rain collection barrel, this will begin to settle at the bottom of the barrel and eventually need to be cleaned out.
Any size Big Berkey water filtration system is an outstanding investment. Spend as much as you can afford on this item…when you need it, you will never say to yourself, “Gee, I wish we would’ve bought the smaller one.” Remember, while bulky, these are portable. If you are going to purchase one, start shopping at Amazon…same item, much cheaper price! If you plan to dig in and harden up instead of bugging out, consider a smaller, less expensive whole-house water filtration system such as this: http://www.amazon.com/Watts-WH-LD-Premier-Filter-System/dp/B000E78XH6. This particular water filter comes with 3 replacement filters which are good for 6,000 gallons each. With some threaded connectors and some plumber’s tape, adapting this for use outside of a house’s water lines would be relatively easy. Just something to think about….
The “get one with the bottle on top” link is broken. Here is a good link for it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B7N5JTQ/. This particular model is very poorly rated by Amazon purchasers/users so you make want to do some shopping if you like this type of water dispenser.
Candles are the absolute best source of in-home/shelter light after dark without electricity. Make your own inexpensively following the directions here: http://www.teotwawki-blog.com/2012/02/diy-survival-candles.html. This is very cool stuff right here!
Sleeping in the cold weather? Remember, Polarfleece is inexpensive and a great way to keep & stay warm. Don’t purchase a $300 sleeping bag that’s rated to -40 degrees Fahrenheit. Buy the $50-75 one that’s good to 15 degrees and wrap up in inexpensive polarfleece blankets. I do this while tent camping in 30-40 degree weather and I almost overheat inside an inexpensive mummy-style sleeping bag…especially with a cheap polarfleece cap on my head.
Also remember if you are using a kerosene heater inside a home, position near a window that is open a couple of inches. This will keep carbon monoxide from building up in the room. Set the kerosene heater on a couple of concrete blocks inside a drain pan (such as this http://www.amazon.com/Camco-20800-Aluminum-Heater-Fitting/dp/B000IJX0EQ) just in case it leaks fuel. Safety first, right?!?
Sanitation and personal hygiene are extremely important issues while coping and surviving off-grid or without electricity. Digging and constructing an outhouse is a big task and may be impossible for city-dwellers. If your abode is on city sewer, you CANNOT continue to use an indoor toilet – it will back up. If your shelter uses a septic tank, you’re good to go (literally!) if you use about 1.5 gallons of water in the tank to flush the bowl each time. This is not really sustainable, however, for a long period of time because you don’t want to use up precious water resources for flushing the commode. Remember that generic baby wipes are compact, very inexpensive, portable, plentiful, and available everywhere – buy ‘em by the thousands at Wal-Mart and you still won’t pay much. Instead of stockpiling the fluffiest Charmin you can find, consider a couple of cases of this: http://www.amazon.com/Solaris-Paper-23501-Plain-Tissue/dp/B00JVQFL3K/ (Can you tell that I like shopping at Amazon.com?) From a guy that doesn’t mind doing his business in restrooms other than at home, I’ve used a lot of this commercial toilet paper over the years and it does get the job done.
Do lots of reading and investigation on these issues and have a plan…that’s what is MOST important: having a plan!
Thank you for all of that great information…WOW! Fantastic advice!
I fixed that link too 🙂
~ Daisy
I like these for moving water out of 5 gallon bottles, then I don’t have to lift them onto a dispenser,something to think about if you have health or strength issues…
http://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Water-Bottle-Hand-Pump/dp/B0014HZU3U%3F
Daisy: if that link doesn’t work, can you fix it? Not sure how to link here… 🙂
It works perfectly – and also, that’s a great idea! 🙂
Hi Daisy,
I followed you a lot on Trenches, and Lew Rockwell and decided to start coming to your site. I now have you on my desktop. Thanks for the site. Just a word on prepping, I don’t ever see anyone talk about foraging. I think a good skill to have is knowing what local flora is edible if you want to manage to survive off grid. None of the prepper or survivalist sites ever seem to touch on this. It’s a good idea to have a good foraging book as well as books with color pics of plants growing wild in your area. Learn to recognize them and also learn how to use them I say. A good deal of plants in your own yard are better for you than the junk they sell in the grocery store and a good deal of them are better medicine as well. Foraging books will help people get to know the bounty right under their noses if they will only take a look!
Welcome, Shay! You are very right. I will see if I can locate some good articles on this topic 🙂
~ D
My main concern is not the ability to stay alive and live low tech. My concern is the hordes of crazy sheeple wanting to take our resources, and that they will out number us and may be armed. You can’t burn wood without the smoke being advertising to the freezing masses that you have heat. You can’t grow food plants outside and have them not noticed. Inside requires light for serious gardening. Solar panels are visible to anyone with half a brain, and Willie Pete pointed out the nuclear power plant issue.
Excellent article with useful information, much of which I’d like to work on applying, so thank you very much. But it does sadly seem to me that in any large scale disaster the best way to survive is to stay underground and hidden until the crazy masses slim themselves down to a manageable size. Thoughts on this anyone?
I agree with you – laying low is the number one way to stay safe. It’s why we live in a very, very small town. I haven’t always lived in a small town, though, so I do understand the things you are worried about. I don’t think there is any shame whatsoever in hiding out during the initial stages of societal unrest. There is honestly nothing to be accomplished by fighting or by being out and mixing with a crowd that may become unruly.
Is your plan to bug out or bug in?
Google “Rocket Mass Heater” for information on how to build one. Here’s why – Wood fuel is burned almost completely (no wood smell) and exhaust temp can be as low as 60 degrees. Paul Wheaton has workshops on these all the time and DVD’s for the DIY crowd.
another way is to relocate to somewhere that isn’t a target, where food is grown all year, and that doesn’t require heat etc….
if WW3 happens, 3/4’s of the planet wont even know until they see it on the news….
think outside the cattle fences…..
Isn’t that what prepping is all about…going as low-tech as possible? Since we first begun prepping, we’ve always looked toward doing things without power. Manual tools and equipment for gardening, laundry, etc; learning how to cook over an open fire; the list goes on and on. Anyone who thinks they will be able to maintain their current lifestyle is setting themselves up for failure.
For those of us that aren’t out in the boonies, Im wondering what to do about looters and theives. I can have food saved and a garden, but what happens when it is overrun by the masses that are also hungry. I just read that a mob of teens ransacked a couple stores here last night for fun. What if they were actually hungry or it was parents with starving kids. They know they can get away with stealing because employees aren’t suppose to confront them. So take 15-20 teens at a time going in a store, no one can do a thing. Not even the cops. If they do catch a few, they get let out due to over crowding. This country is going downhill real fast. I don’t know if we will have to worry about an EMP.
I used to live in a large city. I never had to try this out, so no guarantees, but I made some very official looking “Quarantine” signs – I copied them from actual FEMA signs I found online from a previous disaster – black letters on red paper, with a line that the officials fill in with whatever the contaminant in the home is. I went ahead and printed these off, so I’d have them on hand in case the power was out. As well I got red spray paint. Then I looked up some “likely” sounded diseases that no one wants go get (tuberculosis, cholera, or of course, Ebola) or toxins that no one wants to be exposed to (like black mold). In the event of a true emergency, I was going to plaster my home with these in the hopes that would keep people away. Another good investment for this type of emergency is spray paint, because FEMA and the National Guard sometimes use that during a disaster to warn people away from places that might carry disease.
It might make your house one of the less desirable to loot.
That is a FANTASTIC idea! Even the worst of the worst in society, in all likelihood, aren’t going to gamble on catching a deadly disease just for a couple of cans of beans (or whatever!). These looters/thieves/dregs will most likely move on to an easier or “safer” target and pass your place on by. Excellent!!!
I have some bad news for all of you well intended good people…There are going to be hoards of hungry, desperate ,starving people that will have no protection from the harsh elements of nature….As soon as they see a light shining from a window at night or steam or smoke iminating from anywhere at all they are going to come for you and they will come in numbers that you absolutely cannot deal with…I don’t care how many bullets, guns and ammo that you have…..They will overwhelm and overtake you….They won’t be coming in small groups they’ll be coming in an unlimited birage, kind of like any army….They will be willing to die for just one single bite of food…Eventually you and yours will be killed and every single thing that you own that these desperate zombies think can benefit them in any way whatsoever will be carted off…Your nicely and wisely prepared home will look like a dead dear on the side of the road after the buzzards have finished with it….You will be picked clean.
You must start and gather a group of like minded , God fearing people and form a community complete with a well regulated militia that operates 24/7…It would be wise to pick an area with only one way in a fortify it to the hilt and defend it at all cost….If a single stranger walks up to your fort find out if he has anything of good use to offer to the community such as sspecial needed skills…If he does then disarm him and welcome him in….Remember that there is safety in numbers. Arm scouts / riders will have to be dilligent at all times…Good horses will be important….Remember the movie “The Postman” starring Kevin Costner (sp?) , well it will be something very, very similar to that….Start reaching out to friends, family and neighbors and put a plan and a sworn oathe together.
Troy, I believe every word you said to the core of me, but my family and all but one friend refuse to see the light. My friend and I will move anywhere to find and join the scenario you mentioned, but everyone is so tightlipped (understandably) besides creating a group from scratch HOW can we find one already started?
Try these websites. They have maps of meetups and other groups that try to meet and work together for TEOTWAWKI:
http://americanpreppersnetwork.com/
http://www.alt-market.com/
Check out their maps.
Anna,
this is a very common experience for preppers…
there is a prepper date site or two..
survivalist singles is the name of one such…
would you stay in Nazi Germany in the late 30’s if jewish if your family pooh-poohed you?
I got out of the US 20 years ago… what I realized was that I was making a beach head for friends and family…
even the denial heads will know where to go when things
get bad, if you are already there….
neoindigenousliving.com
Troy, I agree that finding like minded individuals to connect with now is a good idea but, I don’t necessarily agree with your assessment of the first scenario. All these hoards of people you speak of will be acting in unison with a common goal? I agree that things will be chaotic but what you’re describing sounds more like a precision military strike! Lol. I foresee small gangs of men, (10 at most) looting together. Looters will be stealing from other looters. They will wipe a large portion of each other out. The cities will of course be worse but I don’t think small gangs will pose much of a problem to places that have enacted a neighborhood watch. Any neighbor within “scope range” will be offering assistance to protect their neighborhood. Just because people haven’t turned their city blocks into “communities complete with a well regulated militia that operates 24/7” doesn’t mean they won’t survive. Just as hard times brings bad people together, it also brings good people together.
Consider using underclothes that might be the only clothes you wash, to conserve water and soap. Suitable materials would be silk (VERY fast drying), thin merino wool and lycra, such as bicycle or running gear. Do NOT use cotton, especially thermal underwear; there is a proven saying among outdoor enthusiasts and search and rescue personnell, “Cotton kills”, which is true, as there have been instances where someone might have survived time lost in wilderness except their wet cotton clothing led to hypothermia and death. Cotton is fine for non-survival scenarios, but I wouldn’t have any in my BOB, not even kerchiefs, you can find silk easily.
Oh man, just reading this makes a tech guy sick…
1. An EMP which would be able to knock out your toaster & TV etc. is damn sure to kill you way before that.
2. Singer is an idiot and sells this for whatever political/financial reason. I don’t know the game yet, but it is a game of some sort. Maybe a false-flag planned somewhere or such.
I appreciate the common sense attitude in your article, Daisy. Good comments, too.
Fuel will last forever, if you locate near a natural gas well, and learn how to do some plumbing, and actually have all the materials on hand to tap into it. I have a gas well, and if the grid goes down, will turn the valves off providing gas to the pipeline, and happily live off the gas for decades….
A question for T2015, no offense intended, but what are your credentials for being a tech guy? What kind of work do you do and what educational background do you have?
Thanks,