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As an American, most of us strongly support the concept of peaceful protests. However, when things turn violent, when property gets destroyed, when buildings and cars are set on fire, and when businesses are looted, rational people can agree that this is wrong.
Unfortunately, a whole bunch of irrational people are being given microphones and they’re trying to tell us all why looting is not just okay, but actually awesome.
Looting is okay because it’s “reparations”
First, there was the woman who spoke after the Magnificent Mile in Chicago was looted so ferociously that Mayor Lori Lightfoot pulled the drawbridge open to keep people out of the downtown area. I recently wrote:
According to a Black Lives Matter activist and organizer, Ariel Atkins, it was just “reparations.” Atkins believes that anything the looters wish to damage or steal is owed to them. She made the radical statement at a solidarity rally in front of a Chicago police station, where people were gathered to support those who had been arrested.
“I don’t care if somebody decides to loot a Gucci’s or a Macy’s or a Nike because that makes sure that that person eats. That makes sure that that person has clothes,” Ariel Atkins said at a rally outside the South Loop police station Monday, local outlets reported.
“That’s a reparation,” Atkins said. “Anything they want to take, take it because these businesses have insurance.” (source)
At a time when more people than ever in the United States were willing to get on board and protest police brutality and racial violence, entitled statements like the one made by Atkins have served to return us to a place of absolute division. (source)
Atkin’s statement was made at a solidarity rally in front of a Chicago police station where people were gathered to support those who had been arrested for pillaging the Windy City.
Looting is okay if they “need” the item.
According to a document obtained by Red State News, Diana Becton, the district attorney of Contra Costa County, California, has changed up how looters are charged during a state of emergency.
Theft Offenses Committed During State of Emergency (PC 463)
In order to promote consistent and equitable filing practices the follow[ing] analysis is to be applied when giving consideration to filing of PC 463 (Looting):
1. Was this theft offense substantially motivated by the state of emergency, or simply a theft offense which occurred contemporaneous to the declared state of emergency?
a. Factors to consider in making this determination:
i. Was the target business open or closed to the public during the state of emergency?
ii. What was the manner and means by which the suspect gained entry to the business?
iii. What was the nature/quantity/value of the goods targeted?
iv. Was the theft committed for financial gain or personal need?
v. Is there an articulable reason why another statute wouldn’t adequately address the particular incident? (source)
Oh. Well. If you need those shoes and purses, then it’s totally different.
And yes, before the barrage of comments, I know that Red State News is biased. So is CNN. So is the New York Post. They’re all biased. If I could only use unbiased sources, I’d have maybe 3 articles on current events on this website. If you want to hear directly from District Attorney Becton, you can check out her opinion piece on Politico right here.
Rioting and looting are okay because they’re “joyous and liberatory”
Vicky Osterweil is the author of the book, In Defense of Looting. I’m sure it’s a super nice book despite that misleading picture of a crowbar on the cover.
Osterweil landed an interview with NPR to tout her opus and first provided a definition.
When I use the word looting, I mean the mass expropriation of property, mass shoplifting during a moment of upheaval or riot. That’s the thing I’m defending. I’m not defending any situation in which property is stolen by force. It’s not a home invasion, either. It’s about a certain kind of action that’s taken during protests and riots…
…It tends to be an attack on a business, a commercial space, maybe a government building—taking those things that would otherwise be commodified and controlled and sharing them for free. (source)
Then she continued to laud looting, almost poetically explaining the “number of important things” that looting does. (Emphasis mine)
It gets people what they need for free immediately, which means that they are capable of living and reproducing their lives without having to rely on jobs or a wage—which, during COVID times, is widely unreliable or, particularly in these communities is often not available, or it comes at great risk. That’s looting’s most basic tactical power as a political mode of action.
It also attacks the very way in which food and things are distributed. It attacks the idea of property, and it attacks the idea that in order for someone to have a roof over their head or have a meal ticket, they have to work for a boss, in order to buy things that people just like them somewhere else in the world had to make under the same conditions. It points to the way in which that’s unjust. And the reason that the world is organized that way, obviously, is for the profit of the people who own the stores and the factories. So you get to the heart of that property relation, and demonstrate that without police and without state oppression, we can have things for free…
…Looting strikes at the heart of property, of whiteness and of the police. It gets to the very root of the way those three things are interconnected. And also it provides people with an imaginative sense of freedom and pleasure and helps them imagine a world that could be. And I think that’s a part of it that doesn’t really get talked about—that riots and looting are experienced as sort of joyous and liberatory. (source)
And also, if you’re worried about violence, don’t be as long as you don’t “feel” violent. (Emphasis NPR’s)
Ultimately, what nonviolence ends up meaning is that the activist doesn’t do anything that makes them feel violent. And I think getting free is messier than that. We have to be willing to do things that scare us and that we wouldn’t do in normal, “peaceful” times, because we need to get free. (source)
I suspect if you are aggressively defending your hard-earned property against looters, folks like Vicky Osterweil won’t give two hoots whether you felt violent or not.
Incidentally, Osterweil herself is white. Here’s her bio and photo.
Not everyone was impressed with NPR’s publicity for the author.
This glorification of looting and property damage is absolutely despicable and shameful, @NPR. https://t.co/Sv2MeMAzq3
— Erielle Davidson (@politicalelle) August 29, 2020
As long as looting is praised it will increase.
If looting continues to be considered acceptable, okay, or even awesome, it’s not just going to continue – it’s going to increase. Our country’s economy has already been devasted by COVID and the subsequent shutdowns. Imagine being a small business owner who just managed to reopen your shop or restaurant, only to have your windows smashed in, your property stolen, and your fixtures destroyed by an entitled mob. While it’s great that riot damage is often covered by insurance, who’s going to cover your massively increased premiums when your policy renews? If you aren’t driven out of business now, you might be when that bill comes in.
Not only are businesses being forced to board up their windows and close, they’re going to have difficulty doing business in the longterm due to these looters.
Looting is NOT okay under these kinds of circumstances. As preppers, we talk sometimes about looting and scavenging. But that is something which would take place when no further business is likely to occur due to a systemic breakdown. This is something entirely different.
What happens when more business owners decide that if the police aren’t going to protect their property they’ll protect it themselves? What happens when they take away the “joyousness” of looting? What happens when the rational people of the United States of America say, “That’s enough” and back it up?
Because that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Hardworking business owners are not going to stand by and simply watch as everything they’ve worked for is destroyed. At some point, they’re going to fight back because if the country is lawless, they’ll have to take the matter into their own hands.
There are already battle zones across the country and more getting added daily. Armed conflict is already occurring. These celebrations of looting will only fuel the flames.
And then we’ll really see things burn
You will notice in each of these cases, of support for looting, they do not own businesses.
They have careers and perhaps offices which should probably be “looted” because you might need a different stapler.
Maybe their car keys should be “looted” because it’s better than the one you have. That would be liberating and joyous and strike at her whiteness as she stated.
Homeowners have insurance as well and each of these supporters of looting should be “looted” rather than robbed.
NATT,perhaps you never heard of CIVIL ASSET FORTUIR,its a name YOU POLICE GANGS AND GOVERNMENT USE TO ROBB ANYONE THEY WANT,your OK with that,so what are you bitching about…and I can tell you the KIDS aren’t going to get away with haft of what YOUR HERO’S DO…
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Looting is stealing and it is a crime. Period.
OldCountryWoman
Correct. This was written in jest and pure silliness just like their reasoning for it.
I get it. You don’t like me. Duly noted.
You don’t like law enforcement. There’s probably a reason for that other than opinion.
The reason I’m not talking about civil asset forfeiture is because that’s not the topic of conversation.
Got anything real to add to the conversation?
Matt, please excuse him,it has been incredibly hot here in Arizona and Arizona may be in the sun too long
Arizona if you are trying to make a point then at least get your facts right. As a person you should not be able to better yourself from criminal activity. If you buy a car or house, etc with proceeds from breaking the law then you should loose that property or money. That money us used to buy equipment to better fight crime. Looters are mangy worthless mooching bums who try to justify their actions by crying about reparations. Reparations? Many white peoples died for your freedom from damn dirty democrats. You trying to make a case only confirms you are a worthless Marxist POS.
Although civil forfeiture isn’t really the subject here, the problem with it is that in most (maybe all) states, police can stop you and if they “suspect” that you’re involved in anything illegal, take whatever you have on your person (money, valuables) and your car, without even filing charges. Even if charges are never filed or are dropped, you’ll pay hell getting your porperty returned. Police departments have used this to boose their budgets for years.
Vicky Osterwell is a confused and deceived person (Not so sure Vicky is a she either).
Satan has blinded many and the deception will get even worse. Those who don’t want to be deceived should confess Jesus as Lord and follow Him!
That Vicky is a dude.
Yep. His name used to be Willie.
https://vdare.com/posts/surprise-surprise-vicky-osterweil-author-of-in-defense-of-looting-used-to-be-willie-osterweil
Let’s please make the comments relevant to the topic, which is looting. I really don’t want to get my website put on a list of “hate websites” and demonetized because of the comments section. I appreciate everyone’s cooperation.
He’s not a woman…no wonder he’s pissed off enough to express his anger in defense of lawlessness.
Anyone that cannot see the evil of these actions must be evil themselves.
Another article about the NPR interview with Vicky Osterweil: https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/08/29/knew-coming-defense-looting/
The article above makes the point that Osterweil employs the tactics of Karl Marx, whose playbook called for redefining events and language in more “palatable” terms. It’s not stealing, it’s expropriation of property. Yada, yada, yada… In whose universe is this true?
Matt makes a good point– not one of these people has ever owned a business or they’d know what it takes to stand one up and keep it running. Insurance is not cheap, and many businesses have minimal insurance. Insurance did not cover the loss of revenue from the pandemic.
These anarchists are going to find themselves creating a world they do not like. No more lattes or chai on the corner. No more vegan food peddled in downtown. In fact, there will be no more downtown in their “utopia”. Good luck with that.
I don’t understand why people still live in the city the way things are going.
Perhaps time to consider moving out of the city and learn to grow food and build relationships locally.
Lately I’ve noticed In Maine there’s been an influx of out of state people moving in. Purchasing old farms, renovating them and building communities.
Here’s an old farm on 83 acres.
https://blessedthistlefarmstead.com/2020/08/05/386-thurston-hill-rd-madison-me-04950-realtor-com
Great article!
These people are delusional about their utopia. They should be shipped to Venezuela, Moscow, Cuba, China and find out what life is like in the delusional utopia. Venezuela is a great example of this as I have seen those who immigrated here that the same narrative is happening in America as happened there…..
People will fight back and people are starting to stand up to the BLM and Antifa mob, so it is bound to happen.
I could never raise my fist or bend my knee to this cultish group. Which unfortunately that is what this group is… the hate and anger is poison. It never solves a problem or brings people in discussion. Love and kindness does, but it is difficult to get through the wall of hate that is there.
These people must not have work and the organizations seem well organized and funded. Getting to the root of who is running all this will not be easy….
There are some truly great comments here.
Mine is basically, evil is as evil does. Misguided (I’d say moronic, but I’m being polite) people like Vicky Osterweil can justify anything if it fits their agenda. Communists don’t believe in private property. It all belongs to the people, therefore the people are justified in taking it. Such wrongheadedness is at the root of their evil actions. Re-defining words and history to advance your agenda is one of the strongest tools in the Marxist’s toolbox.
Those who are instigating these riots are Marxists, they admit it. Their goal is the destruction of the United States of America and if that means starting civil or race wars they are fine with that.
When we do not stand up for what is right and good, when we don’t defend people and their property from violent attacks, we are contributing to our own downfall.
But how long are the insurance companies going to keep paying claims before they stat denying the claims of these small businesses. I’m not sticking up for them. I’m just saying that in the past they only pay so much out then file bankruptcy. So now not only are small businesses looted and destroyed, now they have to pay for damages out of their own pockets. And I haven’t heard of hardly any money going to help them out. In my opinion this is not looting. It is out right stealing. And nothing is being done to protect them. Why do these people need reparations???? Its been 150 years since Slavery was outlawed get over it. If the people that were actual slaves meaning your ancestors were still alive then yes give them reparations. But you guys just want more free stuff and you don’t care who it hurts. God is watching you and lawlessness is a sin and you will pay for it in the end. Get over Slavery. During the same period whites were slaves at a higher rate then blacks but you don’t see us wanting reparations. Although I do realize that whites are looting also. Look it up about white people being owned by black owners. Its all appalling. No one should be owned. I could see the looting if you were only taking food to feed your family. But your not your taking anything thats not nailed down. One of these days the Veterans and Patriots will have had enough and all hell with break loose against you. Just my opinion.
So theft is to be commended? What if some snowflake “needs” a car to go to the next rioting assignment – is he/she entitled to go to a car dealership and take the vehicle of their choice?
It would be awesome if a creative judge would sentence these useful idiots to a “vacation” in Venezuela. Give them a one-way ticket and let them see the utopia they want to create here.
I don’t consider people who loot and justify it as Americans. These are sub human fascists e.g. ANTIFA. These people are the fascists.
A purge is greatly needed in the US.
Just because they are US citizens does not make them Americans. When they begin looting shoot every one of them down in the street, bring in a front end loader to put the bodies in dump trucks and dump them in a mass grave at the landfill with the rest of the trash. Repeat as necessary. Problem solved.
About insurance
Very often, both commercial and residential insurance policies have riot or civil disturbance exclusions. Not always, but here’s the implication:
If there is no such exclusion in the policy, then the rioters are stealing from the insurance companies. If there is an exclusion, then the rioters are stealing from the property owners. In either case, stealing is still stealing, and should be punished as such — harshly.
About “reparations”
Often we learn most effectively from the obvious cases of extremes, so the principles are made very clear when we confront less clear situations. One example of an extreme would be executing the great grandchild of a murderer. We would all be rightly horrified at such an injustice that flies in the face of many centuries of western civilization.
Now take the case of “reparations.” Does today a living white descendant of Irishmen who were kidnapped by the British in the 1600s and early 1700s (and shipped over to the American colonies as slaves, or as “indentured servants” who often died before they could work long enough to pay off their indentured status) have any claim of “reparations” on living white descendants of those long ago British kidnapper / slavers?
If you foolishly answered yes, then there would never be any end to such claims in generation after generation until all such memories had fallen out of the history books. That would be a guarantee of unending chaos. If you answered no, your position is backed by the horror example of punishing ANY or ALL descendants of even an extreme offender — both for reasons of justice and for reasons of blocking that never-ending chaos that the alternative would threaten.
Regarding the Marxist plague directing much of today’s violence, these two articles address that:
https://mises.org/wire/americas-riots-are-just-latest-version-marxist-syndicalism
AND
https://www.westernjournal.com/paul-kengor-marxists-always-said-can-infiltrate-1-society-can-control-99/
–Lewis
When (if ever) will the American people (who are still patriots if any) wake up and realize we are in the 2nd Civil War and only (except for one brave 17 yr old) one aide is fighting it. If only one side fights a war than it will be the winner. This country is at risk and it’s people seem to be asleep to the danger. The reaction to the Coronavirus says it all . We have become submissive sheep who are waiting to be “sheared”. Those who are not willing to take a stand for freedom do not deserve to have it.
These looters and rioters are telling us that their actions are okay because it is only property, and they value lives more than property. But what they don’t realize is that property is someone’s life. A life that they spent years building up, only to watch it being destroyed. It is like watching their own lives being destroyed, because they will never get that time back that was spent in building up their business.
—And insurance? Insurance is not free. The business owners had to work in order to pay those premiums. And the insurance may not cover all of the losses either. And if they rebuild and go into business again, you know that their insurance costs are going to go up for everyone that filed for losses or rebuilt in the same place.
—These people who have never worked for anything have no idea of the damage and pain they have caused. And I doubt that they would care even if they knew.
And many insurance policies DO NOT cover this type of damage. Some call it an act of war or something similar.
Antifaschistischen? Try ‘Ante-Fascist.”
Anyway, this is the kind of thing that is inevitable when history is not learned properly, but only learned in a biased and incomplete way. This kind of thing has happened over and over again in history and the current crop of useful idiots has been manipulated into thinking that they could possibly have a good result from their current actions.
Watch yourselves, good people. We really don’t want to go down the same road the October Revolution took Russia for so many years.
Although I don’t agree with what is currently happening or the reasons behind it.
I do see a good side to some of this.
Looting for profit is bad. Calling it “reparations” or whatever does not change that.
However there has been a need to address ” looting” for food or survival needs during an emergency.
Stores may be closed due to the situation, but some unprepared folks might need food or medical supplies, say after a hurricane or tornado. They should not be charged under the current system for getting needed supplies. They do need a special category for that kind of “looting”.
Of course the devil is in the details and here it seems it is being used to justify looting for profit.
But a common sense law, properly applied, would be a good thing.
Wrong. Looting is still looting. In an emergency situation, hurricane or tornado, is it ok to deprive somebody else of their property? Is it ok to “borrow” something from a business that was destroyed? So after a tornado strikes and everything is in shambles, you have been coveting your neighbors new chainsaw that they purchased to help in the aftermath of the tornado, they have been injured and taken to a medical facility, is it ok to just “borrow” their saw without their permission? Don’t think so. Property is owned by somebody, whether it is a persons or companys’ or governments. Taking somebodies property is stealing unless they have given express permission to let you have it.
“Intent” is a key factor here. What did the person who is “looting” intend to do with the items they took? Were they going to keep the items for their personal use or were they going to use them to help other people who really needed the help? Lots of different situations here, but looting is just stealing using another word for it.
Mic brings up a point that several groups I’ve been in have broached in discussions. At what point post SHTF does looting/stealing become ok? I can tell you the opinions are very strong, arguments might ensue and feelings come out.
Some are like the ones mentioned in the article that are already trying to justify it because of politics, hard feelings and special treatment to own possessions above their means of income and others on the opposite pendulum swing will die of starvation lying next to an abandoned grocery store during a Walking Dead scenario rather than compromise their morals.
I know of one group and several couples that this is their plan post SHTF is to loot and steal what they need and they refuse to prepare because toys and appearance take priority.
It’s a hard discussion and an emotional topic because it is what separates civilized from uncivilized.
@Matt in OK,
Yeah, I have seen more than a few of those who’s entire plan to hide out and then go into homes, businesses, etc. and take what they want.
Sure, if we are talking a full on SHTF, CME/EMP, asteroid strike, pandemic with a 80% mortality rate across all ages, and 90%+ of the populace has died off, okay, I could see doing some looting like that. Of course, at that point it is no longer looting but scavenging.
However, if we have not gotten to that point, and people think it is okay to loot, dont be surprised if the owner just so happens to take offense.
You hit on the key area Brother with Looting vs Scavenging and even then it’s likely to be protected
I’m a white male and a retired military officer. I have not worked for 57 years to see my nation turned over to Marxists and terrorists. If “Vicky” wants to try to loot my town, I invite her and her Antifa “parlor pinks” to come ahead. What these criminals and would-be terrorists don’t understand is that there are millions like me out there, whom Socialist Princess Hillary Clinton described as “deplorables.” I prefer the term “rednecks with guns.” Anyone who tries this crap in my town will be shot, either by the police or by citizens defending their homes and property. We will NOT allow this crap to happen.
“Rangers Lead the Way!”
“All the Way!” Ditto!
I am with you! The only issue is the cops will prosecute the deplorables and coddle the rioters / looters .
I have distanced myself a bit from all the mayhem. Not because I don’t care. I do. Deeply. The violence is far in excess and is being justified by a worthy cause. It has not helped the movement they claim the atrocious acts of looting and violence is suppose to bring about. I distanced myself because I found myself desensitized by the constant onslaught of day and night violence and fighting. I felt like a bit of my empathy and humanity was going away as I got fired up by these things.
It is a matter of time before more and more people raise up arms to defend themselves, property and families. This has the potential to bring about long lasting change that will do nothing for equality and unity. November is starting to look quite scary right now.
Just look at all the joyous and liberatory people!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-hunt-200-looters-broke-083702901.html
Interesting that Ms. Lightfoot didn’t think this was OK when they came to her neighborhood. She called the cops, and guess what? They actually showed up. This is not a dig at the cops. They do what they are told.
I’m sure if these “protesters” show up at the ritzy houses, they will be sent away or arrested.
At the very least these people are are hypocrites
I wonder if that bimbo or tranny Osterweil would think it’s okay to rob his/her home when he/she was away? I mean it’s not violent after all.
A book and an article
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution: The Remarkable True Story of the American Capitalists Who Financed the Russian Communists,
by Antony C. Sutton
https://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-Bolshevik-Revolution-Capitalists/dp/190557035X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HHQMAQB6ZET&dchild=1&keywords=wall+street+and+the+bolshevik+revolution&qid=1598818080&s=books&sprefix=Wall+Street+and+the+%2Caps%2C170&sr=1-1
I suggest reading the full description of that book. Sutton’s book makes it clear that money from London and money from Berlin were also added to the financial kitty that went with Lenin on his famous train ride from Switzerland to Moscow in order to steal the Russian revolution from Kerensky. But of enormous significance were the American oligarchs who then went to Moscow under cover of the Red Cross organization to extract various trade monopolies from Lenin in exchange for paying for his enormous bloodbath. And this was long before FDR granted Russia diplomatic recognition once he took office in 1933.
Now to put that into today’s perspective. See this June 6, 2020 article:
The Full List – Here Are The 269 Companies Who Are Supporting BLM & Antifa Riots
https://conservativeus.com/the-full-list-here-are-the-269-companies-who-are-supporting-blm-antifa-riots/
Now if you feel like throwing up, I don’t blame you for a minute!
–Lewis
I’VE BEEN ROBBED BLIND,..BY THE HERO’S OF AMERICA,they stole a haft million dollar house from me,a life time of work,and everyone clapped and yelled horey ,their our HERO’S,and their all thiefs, just like the entire government is,and always has been ,DO I SEE A PROBLEM..NO, I SEE A WAR COMING..a well deserved war….and its going to be the worse bloodbath in history…JUST REMEMBER,everything the government has,THEY STOLE IT FROM SOME ONE LIKE ME…AND YOU SUPPORTED THEM DOING IT..because their your hero’s…we’ll see about that…AND SO WILL YOU….
Arizona
What you are saying has nothing to do with the article. Sounds like you have a big beef with alot of people. This is not the forum for this. If you want to yell in CAPS, yell somewhere else please.
This forum is for a reasonable discussion. Thanks!
Holly “wood” being the wand by which the witch casts her spell has been a false prophet from the beginning, using a bit of truth to weave a web of lies to offer a narrative by which to program its targets. The movie series “Purge” is no exception. Except it won’t relegated to one day a year. Soon, it’ll be open season all year long.
This is a very good topic Daisy! Thank you for bringing it to our attention. I’ve got some ideas….
I believe what we are witnessing is a clash of worldviews. The one that has taken root and flourished in our education system and has been nursed along by the MSM is called Critical Theory. It says that the world is divided into two groups: the oppressed (or powerless) and the oppressor (or powerful). If you’re not a victim of the social structure then you are an oppressor. It presumes that the historical social structure is responsible for those who “feel” marginalized. It is believed that The Normal is the enemy to their personal happiness and that their “lived experience” of oppression gives them the authority to conduct a complete overthrow of the oppressor. If you disagree with that, spoken or unspoken, then you are the one who has thrown the first punch and deserve any violence you receive in return.
This is classic projection of guilt. This worldview has set itself against allegedly “white” values such as rational thinking, family meaning female mother and male father, hard work, planning for the future and even meat and potatoes. What we consider an historically classic way of life is their dread enemy. So, rather than critical thinking, it is Critical Theory which means they’ve tinkered with critical. This allows them to make up their own rules. If they, the oppressed, feel like taking it, from the oppressor, they’ll take it.
So yeah. If no one will step up and defend lives and property and the values we have depended on to function at this great height of civilization, then we will have to stand up and face it when it comes home to roost. Law and order is reasonable and rational. We have to hang onto it.
As far as looting goes in a SHTF situation, one better be sure that the goods are completely abandoned and there’s no one to beg-to-differ about who it belongs to.
OK Matt or Jarhead said, “Never go full retard.” That means us “norms”. Those with other ideas have already hit their full retard buttons and are going full tilt. I agree Daisy. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Yes, all is very tame right now looters & rioters have no clue about what violence really is as they have only just sowed the seeds & have not reaped the wrath that cometh at harvest time.
So true. These spoiled punks have never been told no, they have never received any discipline and are used to getting their way or they pitch a temper tantrum. When reality hits them in the way of a 7.62, 5.56 or .45acp they will have a rude awakening but then it will be too late.
History is repeating itself. These “advocates” want a Bolshevik Revolution or worse. They do not understand what happens after the looting and riots, People will not just clean up the mess and act like nothing has happened, they will leave the area for a safer place. Just look at the 1992 Los Angeles riots. the Korean Businesses were looted and burned to the ground. Those who could, defended themselves, but in the end after the riots, everyone left Los Angeles for a safer area.
Apologies – English is not my mother-tongue. But I get the impression, that all I have to do is to change some words in Vicky`s (or Willie`s?) cheerful statement, and I have the perfect legitimation for rape. Like “Ultimately, what nonviolence ends up meaning is that the rapist doesn’t do anything that makes him feel violent”. In Germany we call that either a blank cheque or “Freifahrtschein” – meaning a ticket for a bus or a train so you can use it without paying for the ride (so you can do whatever you want without consequences). We are living in a mad world, and mankind in the 21st century is not my friend.
Best regards
Schnappi
looting is theft, theft is a crime.
What do I think? That this article is another example of adding fuel to the fire to an already fragile situation. While you may make a few more advertising bucks, articles like this are part of the problem, not the solution. Free speech away but do realize you are in an ever shrinking minority. And by that I mean the demographics of the US is changing and there isn’t anything anyone of us can do about it. All this article is missing is a story from a nurse about a doctor who deliver an 8 month, 30 days, 23 hour, 59 minute “baby” and killed it. But the nurse rocked it in the supply closet until it passed.
or its just a discussion that you are too emotionally vested in to have
If Ms Vicky feels that violence bestows an imaginary feeling of freedom, I have a 12 gauge shotgun that will bring looters back to reality
looting is theft, theft is a crime.
wait until its W.R.O.L. and see how long any of them last!
I have been studying Kabbalah–the Jewish understanding of the nature of Creation and creative processes, now open to everyone who wants to learn.
Just before reading this article, I studied what happens where the great powers of the divine become imbalanced and chaotic. They turn evil and can overwhelm the one trying to destroy things.
Looting is chaos, an imbalance between s/he who produces and s/he who gets.
But the looters have an important point, too–our current society is ALREADY chaotic, dishonest, imbalanced. For example, the poorest half of us lost our jobs and businesses in the lockdown–but the wealth of billionaires INCREASED by 33%. That is unjust to the point of monstrous. We can’t shop at our local little stores, so we have to go to Walmart.
Big Media is 95% Democrat–that is imbalance. BigPharma has most people believing in expensive formulations that Nature never made, and the new artificial immune system–vaccines. That is a gross violation of reason and truthfulness. I could go on and on.
Those who have written on such things over the centuries always advise one to work on one’s own soul and righteousness. Do that. Include supporting your local business when you can.